Thanks for the responses. I hadn’t considered socio-economic reasons, that’s a really interesting angle. The original cong had a massive territory and a diverse mix of deprived areas and affluent. With my cynical head on I just wonder if the real reason for the split has more to do with future plans for neighbouring congs. One of them has lost five elders in two years and is sat on a piece of land that could potentially be sold for several million pounds. That surely has to be a consideration for the org these days.
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Manchester Broughton Cong splitting to form two congs?
by Farmer Jim1 incan anyone verify or give any background info on why the manchester broughton congregation seems to have been split and become a salford cong and a crumpsall cong?
surprised that splitting congs is still a thing in the uk with the stagnation of figures..
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Manchester Broughton Cong splitting to form two congs?
by Farmer Jim1 incan anyone verify or give any background info on why the manchester broughton congregation seems to have been split and become a salford cong and a crumpsall cong?
surprised that splitting congs is still a thing in the uk with the stagnation of figures..
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Can anyone verify or give any background info on why the Manchester Broughton congregation seems to have been split and become a Salford cong and a Crumpsall cong? Surprised that splitting congs is still a thing in the UK with the stagnation of figures.
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BOE-2018-04-16--Beards and Special Privileges!
by Atlantis in2018-04-16-boebeards and special privilegeshttps://we.tl/qoxbkltp4latlantis!.
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Has anyone got the letter they can share? I can’t find anything on the links?
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There has got to be some hope that the org can move standard publisher contributions to online only (visible by the body of elders or secretary) and who wouldn’t then put in at least a token amount to appear as if they are compliant with ‘giving to gods organisation’.There is always a cash grab lurking in the background with JW policy. I completely stopped contributing 5 years before I left the org, they must know that a good percentage do the same.
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Anybody in the North West area of England?
by NyxOfTartarus inwould be nice to know if there is anyone from here attending the assembly in manchester this coming weekend?.
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Originally from Manchester.
Nyx I’ve sent you a PM
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Anyone like to meet up to compare notes?
by Farmer Jim1 inhi folks, i’m heading off on a road trip of northern uk next week and, living in a very rural place, would be keen to take the opportunity to meet up with any ex-jws/current jws to compare notes on jw and post-jw life.. if anyone is available please pm me.. for the record i’m 18 months out of jw, was a ‘model jw child’ & longtime ms & reg pio.
leaving was the best life decision i ever made!.
regards.
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The Lakes, Lancaster, Manchester, Peak District, North Yorkshire
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Anyone like to meet up to compare notes?
by Farmer Jim1 inhi folks, i’m heading off on a road trip of northern uk next week and, living in a very rural place, would be keen to take the opportunity to meet up with any ex-jws/current jws to compare notes on jw and post-jw life.. if anyone is available please pm me.. for the record i’m 18 months out of jw, was a ‘model jw child’ & longtime ms & reg pio.
leaving was the best life decision i ever made!.
regards.
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Hi folks, I’m heading off on a road trip of Northern UK next week and, living in a very rural place, would be keen to take the opportunity to meet up with any ex-JWs/current JWs to compare notes on JW and post-JW life.
If anyone is available please pm me.
for the record I’m 18 months out of JW, was a ‘model JW child’ & longtime MS & reg pio. Leaving was the best life decision I ever made!
regards
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Time Gained by Leaving JW World
by Farmer Jim1 indoes anyone else wonder at the amount of time a person immediately gains when they leave the jws?.
just today, a sunday, i would have woken up at 7, frantically taken a highlighter pen to my wt to make it look like i had made a deep study of it.
packed my stuff for meeting and ministry, cycled to the kh, joined the pre meeting ministry arrangement, rushed back for the meeting, sat through a sometimes interesting public talk, sometimes mind-numbingly dull one, strained through a wt study to which i usually had more questions than answers.
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Does anyone else wonder at the amount of time a person immediately gains when they leave the JWs?
Just today, a Sunday, I would have woken up at 7, frantically taken a highlighter pen to my WT to make it look like I had made a deep study of it. Packed my stuff for meeting and ministry, cycled to the KH, joined the pre meeting ministry arrangement, rushed back for the meeting, sat through a sometimes interesting public talk, sometimes mind-numbingly dull one, strained through a WT study to which I usually had more questions than answers. Forced some lunch down and rushed out on the afternoon ministry arrangement. Back to KH, get changed, cycle back home knackered and pretty sure that I hadn’t done anything worthwhile with my day until I got out in my garden for some garden- therapy.
The social aspect of it was sometimes nice but all in all Sunday was 8 hours of wasted daylight.
Now, a little lie in on a Sunday, a nice swim in the sea with friends. A little creative writing. Sunday lunch with friends. Sky sports galore! Even time to do some real good for people by supporting a real charity event locally.
no regrets, no disturbing folks on their weekend, no WT indoctrination, no fake friends, no ‘doing it’ to be seen doing it. And that’s just the Sunday benefits of leaving JWs.
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What’s the most effective way to wake the largest amount of JW’s up?
by Farmer Jim1 inwhat can one person do to save as many people as possible from this organisation?.
youtube videos?.
mail shots?.
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What can one person do to save as many people as possible from this organisation?
youtube videos?
mail shots?
visiting Kingdom Halls and planting doubts?
writing a book/collaborating with journalists on articles?
advertising websites such as JW facts and JW survey?
Other methods?
what does everyone think is the most effective way?
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Cong accounts analysis?
by Farmer Jim1 inanyone on here an ex accounts servant?
i’d be interested in a projection of what percentage of contributions come from elderly jw’s.
i.e, money that will be diminishing over next 5 or 10 years as these ones pass on.. i estimate that in one of my previous congs 50% of the contribution totals of approximately £400 each month were being made by the over 70’s demographic.. within the other 50% were pioneers and low paid workers who put in regular but small amounts.. i guess when the accountants ring the alarm bells you start cutting the biggest costs; full time servants, buildings, printed literature.
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Anyone on here an ex accounts servant? I’d be interested in a projection of what percentage of contributions come from elderly JW’s. I.e, money that will be diminishing over next 5 or 10 years as these ones pass on.
i estimate that in one of my previous congs 50% of the contribution totals of approximately £400 each month were being made by the over 70’s demographic.
Within the other 50% were pioneers and low paid workers who put in regular but small amounts.
I guess when the accountants ring the alarm bells you start cutting the biggest costs; full time servants, buildings, printed literature. With the UK member figures now appearing to have peaked and possibly heading into decline I would be surprised if there is anything less than a 50% drop in contributed funds within the next ten years.